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Nondual Guided Meditation with Michael Taft

Let’s begin. What I need you to do is just, form of, settle back into your seat, your asana. I need you to only check in with yourself to see what it’s prefer to be you straight away, feeling your body and your emotions and taking the weather report in your mind and your whole being. Whatever’s occurring just let that be completely okay, even when it’s really unpleasant for now, just let that be just the way in which it’s and that’s fantastic. So we’re checking in with ourselves, seeing what it’s prefer to be you straight away, and nonetheless that’s, is excellent for now.

Good, and now I’d such as you to only do a slight imaginal journey with me here and picture that you just’re sitting like an ocean, like a boundless, vast ocean. It has that stunning placidity and rest of water, there’s zero tension in any a part of it. It’s really loose and open. We’re not moving in any way anymore we’re simply resting as water, vast, open, and on this case, perfectly clear water. So just pretend to be sitting like an ocean whatever which means for you and see should you can find that sense of rest, that sense of rest, and ease, and a few sense of real openness and clarity. And spot that spotlight or focus could also be tight but awareness itself is like this ocean. 

Awareness itself is of course relaxed and comfortable, naturally wide open and effortless, naturally clear. And permit awareness to note, without effort and without focusing, with none attention in any respect, just allow this wide-open awareness to note the rising and falling of the breath. If you need to you can even see it as a wave within the ocean but minimally, just let your already wide open, wide awake awareness just notice that the breath is rising and falling. Don’t put any tension on it, no tightness, no focus, just wide open, noticing that the breath, the wave of the breath rises and falls within the vast ocean of wide-open awareness. It doesn’t take any effort in any respect. It’s easy and relaxed.

I need you to only keep allowing awareness to note that breath wave, again, without tension, without focus, just know that it’s happening. And you’ll be able to keep it almost just like the heartbeat or background of the practice. And as you’re doing that I invite you to do some physical rest starting along with your head and face. So just invite especially your face to only let go of any fixed expression or tightness or tension, not stretching or moving, but just allowing tension to empty from the face and get replaced with a way of ease and peace within the face. So that you just notice your brow muscles relaxing somewhat bit and feeling form of nice in your eyebrows and particularly the tense muscles around your eyes release and calm down, your eyelids let go, your cheeks and mouth and lips calm down, and your jaw releases to the place where your upper and lower teeth will not be touching. And just notice that that already brings a deeper sense of ease, a deeper sense of letting go which you can tune into. It doesn’t require any effort, it’s only a form of letting go of effort, letting go of tightening on purpose, just releasing that.

After which, let’s do the identical thing with our neck and throat, and shoulders, releasing any tension and replacing that with openness and ease, and space. Now what sometimes happens is: if people find tension in a spot, they’ll begin to fight it, and check out to do away with it and all that, and that’s not what we’re doing. It’s simply whatever you’ll be able to notice which you can just let go, just let go and revel in that. And anything that stays–desires to stay tense, then don’t fight it, just let it’s the way in which it’s. 

When you end up getting drowsy, go ahead and open your eyes and sit up somewhat straighter. It makes it somewhat easier. there’s the muscle in your throat that should you calm down, it makes your voice deeper. It’s only a form of rest. So should you can calm down that, go ahead and do this. And just feel now how your face and neck and throat and shoulders are. There’s just somewhat more ease. There’s somewhat extra space. And permit your arms and wrists and hands and fingers to only go utterly limp, limp like wet noodles, zero tension. No need in any respect to do anything along with your arms or hands or fingers. And spot how good that feels, you may even feel somewhat extra blood flow, or some tingling in your hands due to the comfort. And so now just notice that the arms feel good and the shoulders and neck and throat feel good and the face feels good, or a minimum of somewhat more relaxed, somewhat more open. And just tune into that as a form of fundamental expression of the relaxed ease and openness of your already existing spacious awareness which is like an enormous open ocean. Just tune into that. And drop now more deeply into letting go, noticing the rising and falling of that breath wave with none effort, and the way good it feels to only release and open. Wide awake, very clear, very shiny, and really relaxed.

When you can just release any tension in your diaphragm, in your belly, let that calm down and be comfortable. Your lower back region to around your kidneys just opens up, takes part within the respiration, lets go somewhat bit. After which notice, within the pelvic region, any tension there relaxing and opening, and your hips–your hip joints–releasing. Perhaps your legs fall, just naturally fall open, just barely more and your legs themselves develop into limp like wet rags, no tension of any kind.

And also you notice how this type of relaxed, tension-free openness brings you to a spot of sitting still with none tension in any respect. That is the sitting still of letting go and releasing.

And spot how, as your body becomes more spacious feeling and open and releases and lets go, the core of your mind can just form of calm down and almost melt, perhaps just melt into the ocean. In order that the core of the mind itself is spacious and comfortable grabbing onto nothing, holding on to nothing, releasing and opening, and letting be.

And let’s just sit with that together, wide awake, shiny and clear, an enormous ocean of awareness noticing the wave of the breath rising and falling with none effort. When you notice the mind grabbing onto something, just calm down allow it to fall back open with none effort. And whatever it was grabbing onto just toddles off. Every time the mind grabs on, just calm down, let that open, and let whatever it grabbed onto just go on its merry way. 

The mind here is like an enormous spacious open ocean, grabbing onto, hanging onto nothing in any respect, simply noticing the rising and falling of the breath with none tension or attention. Good, excellent, now let go of even noticing that breath wave and just allow awareness itself to rest in itself, noticing the tremendous openness and ease of awareness. It’s already there, there’s nothing to do, it’s already present but in addition it’s tremendous stability. If, for whatever reason, that’s too difficult, just keep noticing the breath wave. Otherwise, we are able to use awareness itself as its own meditation object, simply resting in awareness of itself with none effort, it’s already aware, nothing to do.

Now, if I used to be a conventional teacher, I’d yell really loud straight away but as a substitute, I’m just going to ring this bell. We’re going to proceed meditating but I’m just going to ring the bell once simply to form of brighten things up in here a bit. So bell’s coming. Let’s take heed to that bell. 

Good. Now we’re going to do something barely more lively. I need you to easily notice whatever emotions are arising, if any are arising, and spot that those emotions which are arising are empty. Meaning: they’re there, you’ll be able to feel the emotion but it surely’s also form of not there, it’s like a mirrored image in a mirror, or like a rainbow or a cloud. There’s a sense tone of emotion that’s there and at the identical time, it’s got a certain form of nebulosity, which we traditionally call emptiness. And if there are not any emotions there, then notice that feeling of emotional peace or rest, and spot the emptiness of that as well. So every time emotion arises of any sort, irrespective of how small, we’re just noticing its emptiness, very easily, very naturally. It’s not something you can grab and hang on to. It’s not something you can put in a box. It’s not something you can label and place in a display case, it’s constantly moving, changing, and in a way, almost like a mirrored image of an emotion–there and never there. Despite the fact that you already know you’re feeling things, you’ll be able to never really define it or pinpoint it or decide on a final description. It’s constantly moving and changing and nebulous. Notice that property of any emotions or moods or feelings which are arising. In our conceptual mind we intend to make them into distinct things but when we’re allowing awareness to contact it freely and openly and directly we notice it will not be a thing.

Good. Now continuing to try this, notice the identical thing about any pondering that’s occurring, any form of pondering. Thoughts are arising, but we are able to’t tell where they’re coming from, they’re staying for somewhat while, but constantly changing after which they vanish and we don’t know where they went. So, similar to with the sentiments, with the emotions, it’s very hard to say that a thought is a thing or something we are able to grab onto. And particularly should you’re using thought constructs to attempt to guide your meditation, or do it right, or judge yourself about it, all of that’s just the identical thing; just the arising and passing of a way of movement within the mind but nothing you’ll be able to hang on to. You might attempt to hang on to it, you might attempt to rest in it but it surely never rests, it’s not reliable like that, it’s empty. Thoughts are like shining projections on nothing, just there, but in addition form of not there.

Notice that now. It’s almost like on this vast open ocean of shiny clear awareness that could be very awake there are only ripples of thought and ripples of feeling, still just more ocean, not by some means different, nothing to hold onto. Now let’s do the identical thing with any concrete seeming body sensations, all that discomfort in your legs, or some feeling in your back, or whatever is occurring simply arising in awareness like ripples within the water, not by some means different than the water, not by some means capable of injure the water or harm the water, there but not there. Thoughts, emotions, body sensations all simply like dreams, like clouds, like reflections within the water, there but in addition not there. Just let go, don’t hang on, there’s nothing to hold on to. If it’s tightening, just calm down. Notice that the vast space of awareness, the ocean of awareness is undisturbed, it’s utterly comfortable, open and restful no matter what’s arising. Emotions are empty, thoughts are empty, body sensations are empty. 

Now notice that even that sense of being you has that very same quality, it’s like a mirrored image in a mirror, there but not there. That whole story of you; likes and dislikes, your history, the what you’re like, and where you’re coming from all of that is solely a mirrored image within the mirror of awareness. It’s definitely there, it’s just also form of not there. It’s like a dream, dreams are there but if you get up where are they? Notice that that whole sense of self is sort of a dream. Don’t be the sense of self. Be what notices it. Notice that even the concept you’re doing a meditation, am I doing it right? am I doing it improper? how am I doing this? its going well, this isn’t going well, that’s all just empty concepts, just a few passing thought and feeling, like ripples within the ocean of awareness, utterly empty, utterly to not be held onto.

And after we finally actually notice our own already present, utterly easeful, open awakeness it’s at all times been there since beginningless time, we notice that that’s just fantastic, that’s at peace. But it surely’s also playful and spontaneous and really alive, not caught up in a story, fresh and present and natural. It’s never not been there, it’s never not been the bottom of your individual being, nothing to repair, nothing to vary, wide open, utterly present.

When awareness recognizes itself, recognizes what it’s at all times been it feels a form of joy. It’s just the enjoyment of openness, the enjoyment of no constriction, and likewise the enjoyment of connection. There’s no lack of connection and togetherness. Just notice that kindness and joy and connection radiating out in all directions, bringing relief in all directions to everyone in every single place. Kindness, peace, and ease to all beings in every single place.

Good. Go ahead and let go of the practice. Be at liberty to maneuver and stretch. 

Dharma Talk 

You may additionally notice that the spaciousness, the openness, the wakefulness, the attention doesn’t go away, didn’t go anywhere. It’s still there because we’re not generating it, or by some means by getting in only the best spot of meditation making it occur, or something like that. It’s at all times there. We’re just getting still enough to note that. While you tune into that over and another time, since it’s at all times there to tune into, eventually, as a substitute of the thought of you tuning into it, you kind of realize that you just’re just returning to where you’re already at, or form of recognizing what’s already there. The more that happens the more it’s form of a funny thing.

I feel I used to be mentioning this verse from Rumi Jalaluddin the opposite day. It’s pretty famous and I won’t quote the poem appropriately but you already know the poem is describing the anguish and angst and energy of knocking on the door and knocking on the door attempting to get inside after which realizing, oh, I’m knocking from the within, already there. All of that was just form of like a mistake or a funny game, I’m already here there was nothing to do and that’s the sensation. That’s the sensation after we recognize our own awakeness. It’s such as you’ve been attempting to do the meditation right, and also you’ve been attempting to get concentrated, and also you’ve been, you already know, you’re warring with distraction, otherwise you’re warring along with your , otherwise you’re warring with you are feeling too drained or you are feeling too–what’s the correct term I’m in search of here? the word that’s coming up is feisty that’s not the actual word I’m in search of. Flighty, somewhat flighty, you already know, just form of an excessive amount of speed in your head so that you’re trying to vary that, otherwise you’re just continuously fighting with the system to love get it right. Got to get it right.

And that’s the identical thing, I’m knocking and knocking and knocking, and then you definately realize you’re knocking from the within. There was nothing to get right there since it’s the attention that’s already there, that’s already stable, that’s already clear, that’s already wide awake, that’s already completely free and joyous. There’s nothing to vary about it. And swiftly, you’ll be able to just calm down, it’s okay. The notice is already awake. After which, you tighten up and forget that again, but just calm down and recognize again, after which calm down and recognize again. When you recognize that even somewhat bit, and then you definately get form of confident, oh yeah, I’m recognizing it.

You may’t ever forget what that’s since it’s just–it’s such an unusual thing. Have you ever ever read in they speak about how Michael Valentine Smith pushes people 90 degrees to every little thing. It just disappears them on this kind of magic way within the book, stated as a form of geometry. Like there’s a spot 90 degrees from every little thing and that’s kind of what it appears like the attention permeates every little thing but in one other funny way it’s 90 degrees from every little thing that we’ve been taught to concentrate to, like emotion, and naturally, emotion is incredibly vital, helpful beautiful, useful, deep, wealthy, sometimes disturbing, upsetting, life-wrecking, sometimes crucial thing and most healing thing.

And so, there’s no sense by which I’m saying that’s not vital or not there. But additionally it’s different than we expect it’s since it’s a mirrored image or arising in awareness. When you didn’t realize it was there, that’s different. Same thing with thoughts and for many of us either our thoughts or our emotions are going to be form of central to gluing our sense of self together, normally each. But a few of us are more like form of mental construct people, a few of us are more, you already know, deep emoters, but everyone’s got each of those occurring. But within the case of thoughts, it’s very easy to only glom onto those and grab onto them and never–I don’t just mean words, it’s not only words, like we tend to consider thoughts as just like the sentences in our heads, but it surely’s also just the general structures, the concepts, the frames that we’re setting things in, and the perspective. I don’t mean visual

viewpoint, I mean form of our sense of where we’re in comparison with them. All that’s coming under the word thought or let’s imagine thought construct, or concepts and all in the identical way because the emotions, that’s there. We will construct an airplane using that and it’ll fly and you already know the stuff is beneficial but it surely’s also different than what we expect it’s. It’s reflecting, it’s an arising in awareness, like a ripple in an ocean and it’s not separate from the ocean. It’s not something to grab onto. 

Similar to emotions, you’ll be able to’t hang your hat on it, you’ll be able to’t rest on it, you’ll be able to’t try and be that. And that’s all we do is try and be those things. And after we try and be those things,  we notice time and again, which you can’t actually do this and that’s frustrating. So we attempt to constantly struggle to make those by some means stable, by some means a spot to rest, by some means something to be. They usually never might be that. And there wasn’t a millisecond in your entire life where you’ve been that. That’s like believing you’re the avatar in your video game. It’s there, you’ll be able to see it, but that’s not something you’ll be able to be. But what’s noticing that? How do you even realize it’s there?

Again, the attention is central. It’s how you already know there’s a thought construct there in any respect, or what the thought construct is. And so, the sport here is to to not do it right, or to not be the right thought construct, or to not have the right emotion, or to by some means stabilize those, or by some means make those all come into focus excellent, but fairly to only stop grabbing on to any of that long enough to only notice the thing that’s at all times there.

The noticing itself. The noticing itself. And that’s what I mean, it’s form of 90 degrees to every little thing because we’ve never been trained to try this. It’s really actually quite easy but because we’ve never been trained to do it, it appears like the weirdest thing on this planet. And the usual formula, the usual form of like–should you get into kind of the traditions and the scriptures and stuff what they may say is that it’s–I’ll forget the complete list–but that it’s like really easy you only can’t consider you’re doing it right. And it’s so obvious which you can’t consider that that’s what individuals are attempting to get you to see, and it’s so good you’ll be able to’t consider that that’s really it. There’s yet one more, I can’t remember what it’s straight away, but it surely’s like really that easy, and really that obvious, and really that good. When you form of get the hang of what we’re attempting to get you to note, which is the noticing. 

In a bunch of my classes, we’ve been going through this beautiful translation of a poem a Sixteenth-century Tibetan poet and master, Jigmé Lingpa. The book is translated by Ken McCleod, it’s called But in there, he says something really interesting, which is: as a substitute of glomming onto the arising, be what knows the arising, be what notices it. And he has a extremely interesting metaphor for that, he says that’s like being an oak peg within the hard ground. It’s a really odd metaphor when you concentrate on it. All these traditions speak about space and openness and ease and there’s nothing to hold onto but he’s saying that sense of coming from awareness itself, openness, not a thought construct, not any form of construct, but just awareness, even awareness, not as a construct not as a thing, that has this property of being like an oak peg within the hard ground.

And regardless that it too is empty, it does have this interesting sense of being super stable and really unruffled, regardless that plenty of things are changing. It has this sense it’s at all times been there, it’s never been different. And so forth now we’re not deifying that or refining that into the one everlasting thing, it’s still empty as I’m saying but still it has this property of–in comparison with

the constructs–of being like an oak peg within the hard ground. It’s very interesting after we learn to meditate by, let’s say, specializing in the breath, which is a stupendous thing to do, I mean please do this, it’s an ideal meditation. We’re form of borrowing the steadiness of the breath to stabilize our mind, right? Or let’s say, you’re meditating on a cushion in front of you, we’re form of borrowing the steadiness of that visual presentation to still our mind. But eventually, as you do this form of meditation increasingly and more you realize the thing itself will not be stable in any respect, it was just comparatively stable.

However the more you notice it the more–depending on the way you’re doing the meditation–you may see it turn right into a form of like buzzy super vibratory static or simply directly see its emptiness, which is like just a mirrored image. And so the thing that you just are using to stabilize the mind, eventually, you see is totally unstable and what’s actually stable is what’s like Mind with a capital M. The notice itself is tremendously stable and the objects of awareness will not be. And so, we are able to allow what’s already there nothing special, just the incontrovertible fact that you’re awake, right, now to be its own stability.

It’s very interesting, it’s very powerful, it’s form of freeing, or I could say

Especially the more you notice that that’s at all times available, at all times available and that’s if you’re like, oh I’ve been knocking and knocking to get inside to the great place but I’m knocking from inside, the great place I totally got it like I’m already there. It’s already there, I didn’t need to make it, I didn’t need to like crawl my way there. It’s already there. So good, that’s my raving for this evening. Any questions or comments and even reports from you all?

Questioner 1: What’s the function of this not moving within the meditation?

Michael:  Total rest. 

Questioner 1: What in regards to the pain that’s increase?

Michael: Yeah, so if pain is increase then primary be at liberty next time to sit down within the wiggle room and never experience that pain, that’s great. But as you get increasingly used to sitting like this, you’ll notice that the pain doesn’t arise because your body just gets used to sitting still, or if it does, that becomes one other object to note the emptiness of and lets you connect more deeply with the attention that’s noticing. It’s actually really, really helpful to sit down still but you don’t wish to do it before you’re ready because then it’s form of just agony, which is why we kindly provide the opposite space. Eventually though, you’ll notice that if you calm down enough your body just–that’s what I used to be saying we don’t stay still rigidly, we’re not holding ourselves still here, you’re relaxing to the purpose where you’ll be able to’t move because should you were to try to maneuver you’d need to tense back up. And When you get used to doing that and also you sit such as you’re sitting in a way that you just’re used to sitting, your body will find this spot where it might probably sit, where it just feels good the entire time.

So it just takes somewhat getting used to, but when you’re used to it, it’s like there’s form of a BING! You only want to only be so relaxed and open that you just just, form of, can’t move. So it’s really eventually very, very nice. 

After I was first learning to sit down this fashion it was like prison and oh I just gotta make it through it, and that might be useful. Actually, plenty of traditions work with that but it surely’s okay to not push it further than you’ll be able to push it straight away. But eventually, you’ll notice–it would take months or years or whatever–but eventually, you only sit there and it just feels good to only really calm down. Because on a regular basis you’re able to move–that is the funny thing–readiness to maneuver is like 15-20 percent tension within the muscles. That’s what readiness is. And so should you let go of that, really let go of it, you agree right into a form of stillness that could be very, very nice after which your mind will begin to calm down. So the body and mind are one thing, right? In order that tremendous rest style stillness within the physical body starts to induce relaxed open stillness within the mind, whereas if we’re keeping the body really tense and that’s like we’re attempting to keep the mind tense. Sometimes we attempt to get thought-free by keeping the mind tense. That doesn’t help. It totally doesn’t work. Or you already know, if we’re just continuously fidgeting and scratching and changing our hair and zipping and unzipping our clothes, or whatever, our mind just will do the identical thing. So eventually, we just learn that actually, you already know, that is even the key of jhana. The key of jhana will not be by some means high concentration, it’s actually learning how you can calm down, really calm down. Because after we really calm down the body, the mind really relaxes, and as a substitute of being some form of tight control that’s the actual real concentration, the mind is just totally still. And it comes from opening, releasing, letting go, freeing tension, right? In order that’s why we’re sitting still, okay? 

Yeah but, you already know, one thing I’ll say is usually it feels along with your legs like in the event that they go to sleep they’re gonna–you’re gonna be done meditating and your right leg from the knee down will just snap off or something and that’s not gonna occur. They simply get somewhat numb sometimes since the nerve is just barely pressed just somewhat bit and so long as you stand up slow they’ll be completely fantastic. Great query though, thanks. What else?

Questioner 2: Is there a degree beyond which we are able to’t go? Is there a degree that’s actually invisible after we attempt to focus the attention? In other words, I used to be surprised how much I could feel that occuring but mentally I’m pondering I want to give you the chance to choose the thing up and have a look at it which implies you’re separate from it.

Michael: Yeah, and in order that’s coming from concept, right? That’s coming from the thought: there’s me over here awareness over there and so naturally such as you’re saying, you get that feeling of–I’ve got to give you the chance to choose it up and have a look at it or hold it or concentrate on it. But you’ll be able to let go of each little bit of that and since awareness is aware it doesn’t require any focus. You don’t have to take a look at it with tight attention in any way, it’s already aware of itself. It’s not a thing that you just’re putting into focus, it’s already there. Otherwise, you’d be dead or unconscious or something. Is there an experience happening straight away? 

Questioner 2: There’s a consciousness…

Michael: No, answer the query. Is there an experience happening?

Questioner 2: Yeah

Michael: That’s it. You only did it, you don’t need to tighten it in any respect to take a look at it in some special way. That’s what I mean. It’s really easy which you can’t consider it. It’s just that nakedness of the incontrovertible fact that there’s experience. So anything you’re doing to attempt to get an angle on it or turn around to take a look at, all of that’s just nonsense. And I did it for years, so I totally relate to why you’re doing it but it surely’ll be quite literal, throw it out, just come back to it’s already aware of itself. It’s that easy.

Okay. does that make sense to you? Are you able to do it straight away? Yeah? No? 

Questioner 2: Yes.

Michael: Okay, right. It’s right there, no focus crucial. So isn’t it interesting, we form of make what I’d call like a cartesian theater in our head, like okay there’s a me over here and I gotta put it up that thing over there. All of that’s just adding stuff in that doesn’t must be there.

So just each time you notice yourself doing that, just drop it, it’s only a waste of time. 

Okay, awesome, great query. People?

Questioner 3: You said something somewhat bit earlier that where you were form of talking about thought and motion and my query is how do you are feeling as if thought and motion aren’t different from one another and the way the function of them is different?

Michael: It’s a sophisticated query since it’s like on many alternative layers, right? And so within the context of this discussion, I’ll just answer briefly although there’s more to it. I’d say in essentially the most form of childlike regular way we notice that thoughts are either sounds or pictures, right? They’re going to be talk talk talk or pictures and even in the event that they’re deep concepts they’re going to have that form of structure, whereas emotions are going to be a body sensation principally, we might need ideas in regards to the emotion but that comes back to thoughts. The emotions themselves feel like a form of movement within the body. So to place it in kind of an experiential but perhaps childlike way; thoughts are going to be sounds and pictures, and emotions are going to be feelings in your body, okay? So what’s interesting is as we go deeper and deeper with those all of them start seeming like a form of movement and eventually they kind of come together into one thing, right, and it’s just stuff moving. After which eventually you recognize it’s just awareness moving, it’s not even a thing, it’s like an empty phantom in awareness. 

And yet again, after we say empty it appears like I mean nothing but I don’t mean nothing, there’s an experience there. But as we go deeper and deeper into what we might call the mind sense, right, it seems to only be increasingly movement, whatever which means. After which the movement–like I used to be saying, like ripples on the ocean of awareness–are only fabricated from more awareness. You realize that the thoughts and feelings and body sensations and even the world around you, it’s not fabricated from anything but awareness. Despite the fact that it’s not fabricated from it but it surely’s not different than it did anyway so but to get into the function and all that, that’s an entire other…

I’ll say I don’t know. Does that answer your query in any respect?

Questioner 3: Yeah.

Michael: Okay. Good. Yes? 

Questioner 4: So that you’re talking about awareness as a part of the self and to me…

Michael: I never said that.

Questioner 4: Okay, are you talking about awareness? But what in regards to the will? Is the desire assumed under awareness or is it a separate thing? Or is it…

Michael: While you say the desire what do you mean?

Questioner 4: I don’t merely have the sense that I’m aware, I even have the sense that I can do things. I can do whatever I need.

Michael: Where does that come from? How do you already know what you wish?

Questioner 4: I select it.

Michael: How do you already know what to decide on? Like so you select to, I don’t know, go to the lavatory?

Questioner 4: It’s a combination between determining and selecting, kind of.

Michael: All I’d say is look really closely at the thought of will and tell me where it comes from and should you decided it. Just in your individual experience look really closely. Because I can sit here and say I feel it’s this or that but I don’t know the reality of the universe, I just invite you to see if that thing of like well… 

Questioner 4: I just do it because I need to.

Michael: Okay, well look into the wanting really how do you even know you wish that? Where does that come from? It’s an interesting thing to look deeply at. 

Questioner 4: The wanting will not be the vital thing, I didn’t will anything even something I don’t wish to I can watch nothing and I actually have five options in front of me I just will this one.

Michael: Okay, notice that moment of willing then. Where does that come from? Look really closely. When does it–is there a moment before the willing? What’s there before the willing? And what’s modified once, right in that moment, when that sense of willing it appears? And where did it come from? Test it out. I guarantee that shall be fascinating.

Questioner 4: Okay

Michael: It’s more vital than my ideas about this or that. Just look into your individual experience.

Okay, awesome. Time sensible I should go here. I actually would love to maintain talking and really enjoy being privileged to hang around with you guys and listen to your questions and stuff. 

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